08-27-2026, 08:47 PM
(Edited 08-27-2026, 09:55 PM by Orv Neisingh.)
I have pondered writing about this particular student for awhile but I think that some of you might find it entertaining and educational to read. This is a true account and I have shared it many times with other students over the years.
About 15 years ago I got a call from a 162f owner who informed me that his 162F that he built was already test flown by a Rotorway professional and now he was ready for flight training. We set a date and I purchased the airline tickets to fly from my home airport in Springfield Missouri to LAX where he would meet me. I was waiting for my flight departing SGF when I received a phone call from this client in which he asked me where he could rent or borrow a main rotor blade for his helicopter. Huh?
Why do you need to rent a main rotor blade? I asked. He responded that since we needed to be at an airport for flight training he used his tractor to lift the helicopter onto his equipment trailer. As he was pulling the trailer out of his driveway on the way to the airport the main rotor blades rotated enough to catch an oak tree buckling one main rotor blade. If he could only borrow someone's blade we could continue with our training plans.
I informed him that owners do not loan out their main rotor blades and that he would need to purchase a new one from the factory for me to build. I also informed him that he may have bent the main rotor mast as well but that would need to be checked when I arrived. I cancelled my trip and told him to let me know when he received the replacement rotor blade. Several weeks later he informed me that he had the replacement blade and was ready for me to travel out to California. After giving him very specific instructions about how to correctly transport the helicopter he decided that he would wait for my arrival so that I could transport it myself.
When my schedule had an opening I made the fight to LAX, my client met me there and on the way north to his home he told me all about his wonderful helicopter that he had built so meticulously. He lived up in the mountains overlooking the central valley and as we pulled into his yard there sat his 162F in the parking area in front of a small garden shed. I inquired as to where he had built the helicopter, there was no shop building on the property that I could see. He told me that he built it right there, on the asphalt parking space, in the open air with no protection.
At this point I was really questioning why I had agreed to take this owner on as a client but now that I was here I would help him out. As I gave the helicopter a first over all look, I noticed that the collective lever was stuck in the full down position and I could not raise it. He was surprised because the other expert that he had hired was able to hover it only about 12 months prior to my arrival. So after that expert had hovered the helicopter it had set out in the weather another winter. We loaded the ship onto his trailer minus the other main rotor blade, properly secured and supported the tail boom and drove it over the mountain to the nearest airport.
Once we got the helicopter into the rented hangar, I began a thorough inspection. I informed my client that it would take me a day to build the new main rotor blade and to do the static lead/lag and balancing so he decided to leave me in the hangar and he would go home to take a nap. First thing was to get the new blade set up and glued so that the blade epoxy would be set by the following day. Next I discovered that the main rotor shaft under the boot and swashplate was so rusted that the swashplate could not move up or down on shaft.
Using some emery cloth on the rusted shaft I could see that the rust had deeply pitted the shaft to the point of it being un-airworthy. I ordered a new main shaft and pulled his shaft system out of the helicopter to work on it. Robin sent a new shaft next day air so over the next several days I was able to get the new blade finished, painted, installed on the new shaft and was able to get the helicopter ready for dynamic blade balancing, lead lag adjustments and tracking. Overall it took about a week to get the helicopter ready to fly. It needed rework of the wiring system, installation of the fuel tank inner washer to prevent the fuel fittings from falling out, and many other upgrades.
Once I was finished with all of the needed work my client agreed to join me at the airport for the first hover. All went as planned and I was able to get the helicopter ready for his hover training. The work that I did took the entire week that I had scheduled and I had another student that was scheduled for the next day so we were not able to begin this owner's hover training that first week. With the helicopter secured safely in a sealed hangar we re-scheduled my next trip out.
The day arrived for my trip back to LAX where I was greeted by my client. On the drive back to his home he was very excited about me flying his helicopter over the mountain range to the hospital where he worked. He had gained approval for me to land on the hospital helipad at night and then I would fly the helicopter back to his home in the dark to his unlit driveway. I could not believe what he was asking me to do. This helicopter had never flown to altitude much less it was not equipped for night flight over mountainous terrain. I declined his offer and told him that we needed to get more time on the helicopter before taking it to altitude. He was disappointed as we continued the drive to his home on the mountain.
When we pulled into the driveway there sat his helicopter uncovered on the asphalt parking area. He told me that the hangar that he had borrowed needed to be used by the owner so he brought the helicopter home. I informed him that the helicopter cannot live outside and needed to be kept in a hangar, not parked out in the weather. We called around and found a vacant hangar at an airport down in the valley about 20 miles from his home. We transported the helicopter to the new hangar and began his hover training.
This student was a slow learner so it took all week and he still was not at the point that I could sign him off for solo hover flight. We scheduled another trip for my return and after that week I was able to endorse him for solo hover.
About a year later he called me asking if I would provide him with additional altitude training. He informed me that he had been flying with another flight instructor around the local airport and that he needed more altitude time, the other flight instructor had decided that they were not a good fit so he declined further instruction....wise man.
I agreed to instruct him so once again I made the trip out to LAX and when he picked my up at the airport he told me that he had the helicopter fueled and prepped and wanted me to fly us out to the Pacific coast so that he could take photos of the ocean waves from the air. I only had his word on his altitude training and told him that we would need to see how the week progressed before attempting a cross country flight over two mountain ranges.
We arrived at the airport and I inspected the helicopter. Previously I had set up the secondary angles and all of the other rigging for safe flight. I made the mistake of assuming all of that had not changed. I asked him if he had done any work on the helicopter and he told me that it was just like I had left it and I took his word for that. I asked him where his fuel dip hose was and he told me that I did not need it as he had just filled both tanks after his last flight. I informed him that since I could not see the fuel level, i needed to verify how much fuel was in the tanks. I found a piece of wire and used it to dip the fuel tanks and found only about a gallon of fuel in them.
"OH Yeah, I forgot that we flew one more time after I fueled up". The fuel pumps were about 50 yards from his hangar so we pushed the helicopter across the tarmac and refueled. We started the engine, it ran fine, so we pulled it into a hover and I had him demonstrate his hover skills to me. He did an acceptable job of hovering and he informed me that he had flown about ten hours with the other flight instructor in the airport traffic pattern. I had him hover out to the taxiway and asked him to demonstrate his takeoff and climb while staying in the pattern just like he had done with the other flight instructor.
His takeoff went fine but as we gained altitude the taxiway ended below us and beyond the airport boundary was a huge vineyard with ten foot tall steel posts supporting the grape trellises. As he began to fly over the vineyard I questioned his route. He informed me that his other flight instructor had him fly straight out over the vineyards until he reached 500' above the ground. As he was responding I guided the helicopter into a left turn explaining that we do not fly over hazardous landing areas at low altitude if we have other options in case of an engine failure. There was a canal with a levy road along the bank running under us and I explained that should we have an in flight emergency, if we were over the levy road we could auto rotate onto the dirt surface.
As we continued our climb following the levy road I pointed out a bare patch of ground ahead where about an acre of grape vines had been removed. I told him that the clear area was a good place in case of an emergency..BANG! We were about 250' above the ground when suddenly there was a loud bang from behind us and the helicopter nose jumped to the right and the engine RPM raced. We were in a climb under maximum power so the helicopter required a lot of right pedal to keep the nose straight. In a climb the main rotor pitch is increased so there is more drag than when in level flight.
In a climb the pilot has about a second to realize that something has happened and to immediately slam the collective to the floor to remove the positive pitch on the main rotor blades as the RPM plummets , pull back on the cyclic to allow the under side of the rotor disc to grab the on-rushing air to establish and maintain the un-powered rotor RPM. I headed straight for the open area were the vines had been removed, initiated a very aggressive flare, leveled the helicopter and set it down into the soft dirt with no forward ground speed.
As we sat on the ground with the engine idling and the rotors winding down he asked me what had happened. I had no clue. I explained to him that had we not turned to stay over open areas and had maintained his original course over the ten foot tall grape trellises we would most likely have been impaled by metal stakes. His response was "I am paying you darn good money to make sure that we are safe". I was shook but pleased that I had been able to establish a good auto and set down with no damage to the helicopter.
What had happened? I removed the rear dog house cover and immediately saw that the cog belt had come off of the rear driving sprocket and was leaning up against the side of the doghouse. There was a slice about half way through the width of the cog belt and the anti-excursion ring that is bolted to the top of the driving sprocket was missing. All 5 of the screws that held the anti-excursion ring in place were sheared off at the top of the sprocket. Now I knew what had happened to disconnect the engine power from the rotor system but why did it happen? The cog drive system had proven near bullet proof once we started using the cog belt tensioners. I found the missing anti-excursion ring wedged between the back side of the pilot side fuel tank and the frame tube, it was still in good condition.
We were able to haul the helicopter back to the hangar that evening and decided to start our investigation the following morning. That night I went through every possible scenario that I could think of and decided that the only way such a failure could occur was if the secondary upper shims had been removed allowing the secondary to tip forward allowing the cog belt to ride up the sprocket with enough force to rip the anti-excursion ring off and the belt to come off the sprocket getting torn on the way off.
The next morning we took the rest of the panels off of the helicopter. I got my digital protractor out and measured tilt angle of the secondary shaft in relation to the main rotor shaft. I had originally set it at 0.1 degrees aft and 0.1 to the pilot side. It now measured 0.7 degrees forward and centered laterally. It had been drastically changed. I asked my student what he had done during my absence of around a year. "Nothing, I have not touched it. You set it up, you must have set it up wrong, this is on you".
On closer inspection I noticed that the two shims that I had installed between the upper secondary bearing and the frame cross tube were missing. The only way that they could be absent is if someone had unbolted the secondary and removed the shims which are held in place by the two bolts that hold the upper bearing in place. There was a small workbench in the hangar and as I approached it I saw the two shims sitting on top. I asked my student how those shims got off the helicopter and onto his workbench. "Oh, yeah, I forget that I changed out the main drive belts because they were at their 5 year life limit. I must have forgot to put the shims back in".
Had he told me that when I arrived and asked him what work he had done on the helicopter I would have known to check his secondary alignment to verify that it was correct. His failure to install the shims nearly cost him his ship and had the other instructor been with him flying over the vineyard on climb out, as was his procedure, they both very well have been impaled on those stakes.
The story with this client goes on with more unbelievable events.
If you are interested in hearing about them let me know by replying to this thread and I will write a further post.
About 15 years ago I got a call from a 162f owner who informed me that his 162F that he built was already test flown by a Rotorway professional and now he was ready for flight training. We set a date and I purchased the airline tickets to fly from my home airport in Springfield Missouri to LAX where he would meet me. I was waiting for my flight departing SGF when I received a phone call from this client in which he asked me where he could rent or borrow a main rotor blade for his helicopter. Huh?
Why do you need to rent a main rotor blade? I asked. He responded that since we needed to be at an airport for flight training he used his tractor to lift the helicopter onto his equipment trailer. As he was pulling the trailer out of his driveway on the way to the airport the main rotor blades rotated enough to catch an oak tree buckling one main rotor blade. If he could only borrow someone's blade we could continue with our training plans.
I informed him that owners do not loan out their main rotor blades and that he would need to purchase a new one from the factory for me to build. I also informed him that he may have bent the main rotor mast as well but that would need to be checked when I arrived. I cancelled my trip and told him to let me know when he received the replacement rotor blade. Several weeks later he informed me that he had the replacement blade and was ready for me to travel out to California. After giving him very specific instructions about how to correctly transport the helicopter he decided that he would wait for my arrival so that I could transport it myself.
When my schedule had an opening I made the fight to LAX, my client met me there and on the way north to his home he told me all about his wonderful helicopter that he had built so meticulously. He lived up in the mountains overlooking the central valley and as we pulled into his yard there sat his 162F in the parking area in front of a small garden shed. I inquired as to where he had built the helicopter, there was no shop building on the property that I could see. He told me that he built it right there, on the asphalt parking space, in the open air with no protection.
At this point I was really questioning why I had agreed to take this owner on as a client but now that I was here I would help him out. As I gave the helicopter a first over all look, I noticed that the collective lever was stuck in the full down position and I could not raise it. He was surprised because the other expert that he had hired was able to hover it only about 12 months prior to my arrival. So after that expert had hovered the helicopter it had set out in the weather another winter. We loaded the ship onto his trailer minus the other main rotor blade, properly secured and supported the tail boom and drove it over the mountain to the nearest airport.
Once we got the helicopter into the rented hangar, I began a thorough inspection. I informed my client that it would take me a day to build the new main rotor blade and to do the static lead/lag and balancing so he decided to leave me in the hangar and he would go home to take a nap. First thing was to get the new blade set up and glued so that the blade epoxy would be set by the following day. Next I discovered that the main rotor shaft under the boot and swashplate was so rusted that the swashplate could not move up or down on shaft.
Using some emery cloth on the rusted shaft I could see that the rust had deeply pitted the shaft to the point of it being un-airworthy. I ordered a new main shaft and pulled his shaft system out of the helicopter to work on it. Robin sent a new shaft next day air so over the next several days I was able to get the new blade finished, painted, installed on the new shaft and was able to get the helicopter ready for dynamic blade balancing, lead lag adjustments and tracking. Overall it took about a week to get the helicopter ready to fly. It needed rework of the wiring system, installation of the fuel tank inner washer to prevent the fuel fittings from falling out, and many other upgrades.
Once I was finished with all of the needed work my client agreed to join me at the airport for the first hover. All went as planned and I was able to get the helicopter ready for his hover training. The work that I did took the entire week that I had scheduled and I had another student that was scheduled for the next day so we were not able to begin this owner's hover training that first week. With the helicopter secured safely in a sealed hangar we re-scheduled my next trip out.
The day arrived for my trip back to LAX where I was greeted by my client. On the drive back to his home he was very excited about me flying his helicopter over the mountain range to the hospital where he worked. He had gained approval for me to land on the hospital helipad at night and then I would fly the helicopter back to his home in the dark to his unlit driveway. I could not believe what he was asking me to do. This helicopter had never flown to altitude much less it was not equipped for night flight over mountainous terrain. I declined his offer and told him that we needed to get more time on the helicopter before taking it to altitude. He was disappointed as we continued the drive to his home on the mountain.
When we pulled into the driveway there sat his helicopter uncovered on the asphalt parking area. He told me that the hangar that he had borrowed needed to be used by the owner so he brought the helicopter home. I informed him that the helicopter cannot live outside and needed to be kept in a hangar, not parked out in the weather. We called around and found a vacant hangar at an airport down in the valley about 20 miles from his home. We transported the helicopter to the new hangar and began his hover training.
This student was a slow learner so it took all week and he still was not at the point that I could sign him off for solo hover flight. We scheduled another trip for my return and after that week I was able to endorse him for solo hover.
About a year later he called me asking if I would provide him with additional altitude training. He informed me that he had been flying with another flight instructor around the local airport and that he needed more altitude time, the other flight instructor had decided that they were not a good fit so he declined further instruction....wise man.
I agreed to instruct him so once again I made the trip out to LAX and when he picked my up at the airport he told me that he had the helicopter fueled and prepped and wanted me to fly us out to the Pacific coast so that he could take photos of the ocean waves from the air. I only had his word on his altitude training and told him that we would need to see how the week progressed before attempting a cross country flight over two mountain ranges.
We arrived at the airport and I inspected the helicopter. Previously I had set up the secondary angles and all of the other rigging for safe flight. I made the mistake of assuming all of that had not changed. I asked him if he had done any work on the helicopter and he told me that it was just like I had left it and I took his word for that. I asked him where his fuel dip hose was and he told me that I did not need it as he had just filled both tanks after his last flight. I informed him that since I could not see the fuel level, i needed to verify how much fuel was in the tanks. I found a piece of wire and used it to dip the fuel tanks and found only about a gallon of fuel in them.
"OH Yeah, I forgot that we flew one more time after I fueled up". The fuel pumps were about 50 yards from his hangar so we pushed the helicopter across the tarmac and refueled. We started the engine, it ran fine, so we pulled it into a hover and I had him demonstrate his hover skills to me. He did an acceptable job of hovering and he informed me that he had flown about ten hours with the other flight instructor in the airport traffic pattern. I had him hover out to the taxiway and asked him to demonstrate his takeoff and climb while staying in the pattern just like he had done with the other flight instructor.
His takeoff went fine but as we gained altitude the taxiway ended below us and beyond the airport boundary was a huge vineyard with ten foot tall steel posts supporting the grape trellises. As he began to fly over the vineyard I questioned his route. He informed me that his other flight instructor had him fly straight out over the vineyards until he reached 500' above the ground. As he was responding I guided the helicopter into a left turn explaining that we do not fly over hazardous landing areas at low altitude if we have other options in case of an engine failure. There was a canal with a levy road along the bank running under us and I explained that should we have an in flight emergency, if we were over the levy road we could auto rotate onto the dirt surface.
As we continued our climb following the levy road I pointed out a bare patch of ground ahead where about an acre of grape vines had been removed. I told him that the clear area was a good place in case of an emergency..BANG! We were about 250' above the ground when suddenly there was a loud bang from behind us and the helicopter nose jumped to the right and the engine RPM raced. We were in a climb under maximum power so the helicopter required a lot of right pedal to keep the nose straight. In a climb the main rotor pitch is increased so there is more drag than when in level flight.
In a climb the pilot has about a second to realize that something has happened and to immediately slam the collective to the floor to remove the positive pitch on the main rotor blades as the RPM plummets , pull back on the cyclic to allow the under side of the rotor disc to grab the on-rushing air to establish and maintain the un-powered rotor RPM. I headed straight for the open area were the vines had been removed, initiated a very aggressive flare, leveled the helicopter and set it down into the soft dirt with no forward ground speed.
As we sat on the ground with the engine idling and the rotors winding down he asked me what had happened. I had no clue. I explained to him that had we not turned to stay over open areas and had maintained his original course over the ten foot tall grape trellises we would most likely have been impaled by metal stakes. His response was "I am paying you darn good money to make sure that we are safe". I was shook but pleased that I had been able to establish a good auto and set down with no damage to the helicopter.
What had happened? I removed the rear dog house cover and immediately saw that the cog belt had come off of the rear driving sprocket and was leaning up against the side of the doghouse. There was a slice about half way through the width of the cog belt and the anti-excursion ring that is bolted to the top of the driving sprocket was missing. All 5 of the screws that held the anti-excursion ring in place were sheared off at the top of the sprocket. Now I knew what had happened to disconnect the engine power from the rotor system but why did it happen? The cog drive system had proven near bullet proof once we started using the cog belt tensioners. I found the missing anti-excursion ring wedged between the back side of the pilot side fuel tank and the frame tube, it was still in good condition.
We were able to haul the helicopter back to the hangar that evening and decided to start our investigation the following morning. That night I went through every possible scenario that I could think of and decided that the only way such a failure could occur was if the secondary upper shims had been removed allowing the secondary to tip forward allowing the cog belt to ride up the sprocket with enough force to rip the anti-excursion ring off and the belt to come off the sprocket getting torn on the way off.
The next morning we took the rest of the panels off of the helicopter. I got my digital protractor out and measured tilt angle of the secondary shaft in relation to the main rotor shaft. I had originally set it at 0.1 degrees aft and 0.1 to the pilot side. It now measured 0.7 degrees forward and centered laterally. It had been drastically changed. I asked my student what he had done during my absence of around a year. "Nothing, I have not touched it. You set it up, you must have set it up wrong, this is on you".
On closer inspection I noticed that the two shims that I had installed between the upper secondary bearing and the frame cross tube were missing. The only way that they could be absent is if someone had unbolted the secondary and removed the shims which are held in place by the two bolts that hold the upper bearing in place. There was a small workbench in the hangar and as I approached it I saw the two shims sitting on top. I asked my student how those shims got off the helicopter and onto his workbench. "Oh, yeah, I forget that I changed out the main drive belts because they were at their 5 year life limit. I must have forgot to put the shims back in".
Had he told me that when I arrived and asked him what work he had done on the helicopter I would have known to check his secondary alignment to verify that it was correct. His failure to install the shims nearly cost him his ship and had the other instructor been with him flying over the vineyard on climb out, as was his procedure, they both very well have been impaled on those stakes.
The story with this client goes on with more unbelievable events.
If you are interested in hearing about them let me know by replying to this thread and I will write a further post.

